Interview
with Grandfather, Part Two
Channelers
note:
The material on this page is a continuation of both
the Interview
with Grandfather and the
Interview with God.
Two other pages that would also be good to read before this
page are
A
Letter to Those Doing the Healing Work,
and
A
Letter to the Parents of Creation.
Grandfather,
some readers have asked questions you may be able to answer.
For instance, can you give us more information
about this period of massive change
we are in up to December 2012 when the Mayan calendar ends?
"This is Original Spirit abiding in my
love,
First Mother or 'Grandmother,' as you know her.
"It is timely to discuss the general phenomena
associated with what in your terms is called
'the end of time.'
And since you are asking about events that transcend your
present sense of time,
some more clarity about the true nature of
reality may be helpful.
"First it is important to note
what the Spirit of your Creation has already
said in this regard.
Your perceptions of manifestation are necessarily wholly subjective
experiences.
It is in your awareness that manifestation
exists,
and you can experience only
what your perceptions, both inner and outer, bring to your
awareness.
The popular myth that there is an objective
'world'
that is common to everyone
and that can be known and understood
has caused a great deal of confusion and suffering
along Humanity's journey toward wholeness.
The perception of self
as one person among billions of others
in an objective world
places your point of view outside of yourself
and perpetuates the false notion
that separation, alienation and fragmentation are 'real.'
"At a deep transpersonal
layer of your Being,
you are creating
the world you perceive.
It's as if you are producing, directing and writing your own
movie,
your unique and ultimately subjective 'take' on reality.
And since the true nature of reality is fully subjective,
each living Human will experience
the shattering events at the end of time
differently,
and ironically at different 'times.'
"The events predicted for 2012 by the ancient
Maya
are not substantially different than those predicted by sages
throughout the millennia.
Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and other seers
have predicted similar events marking 'the end of time.'
And the Maya are only one of many indigenous cultures
that have spoken of their deeply held vision
for the events near and immediately after the end of time.
"All of these prophecies
point to a relatively sudden awakening
into much greater awareness
for some or all of Humanity.
What has been well hidden within the folds of your present
four-dimensional world
will be clearly revealed by the additional Light available
in the unfolding of the new, five-dimensional world.
"In other words,
there will no longer be places in manifestation
where denial can hide.
The abundant new, loving Light
attracted to the deeply moving Will in Humans
as they go through these transformative experiences
will reveal
what has been hidden from you
since before linear time began.
"One of the first experiences
you will have
as you emerge from the vortex of intense energy
in the passage
between your enfolded four-dimensional world
and the newly unfolding five-dimensional world
will be the realization
that you were right about everything you believed and had
faith in.
And very likely your next experience will be the realization
that everyone else has been right as well.
"And you will experience even deeper realizations.
The deceptions inherent in perceiving only linear time
have obscured the fact
that everything that has ever happened
and everything that will ever happen
is all happening now.
The evolving Human mind with all of its wonderful skills and
talents
has not been capable of experiencing
or even understanding
timelessness and eternity.
"The Mother of your Creation
has had a Dream for this Creation
since before it began.
The
Mother's Dream is
that all sentient beings
realize their greatness
and live in peace
with complete freedom~~~
free of denial in any form
and steeped in
deep and abiding love,
joy,
passion
and excitement
in a safe and harmonious venue
of exquisite beauty and wonder.
Thank you Grandfather.
Would you please say more about
how those who have not believed or had faith as we have
will also be right about what they have believed and held
to be true?
"This may at first seem impossible to the
conditioned mind
with its habits of analysis,
evaluation, comparison and judgment
based on concepts of right-doing and wrong-doing,
good and evil,
and all other forms of duality.
Your new life after the end of time
depends upon a new kind of presence
and a mind with a
new kind of attention.
"There has been ancient
conditioning of Spirit
that has also been very present in human consciousness
that has instinctively drawn your attention
to conscious thought~~~
and away from sentient feeling.
Without awareness of the issue and your own conscious use
of attention,
this imprint in consciousness
will not allow you to stay present within a reality your mind
cannot understand.
"For instance, notice how
often the mind
automatically moves you away from directly experiencing
and into thinking about the experience
as if the story about it is more important than the feeling
of it.
You can practice using this new kind of attention
whenever you choose
to give a feeling your fully loving conscious presence
and choose to honor the feeling
by expressing it in whatever way it wants to express.
"In order to experience
the realization
that everyone has been right to be as they've been
and to have believed as they have believed,
you will have developed the capacity
to stay present with intense emotional and
energetic experiences
without any denial.
This means with no comparison, analysis or thought
beyond complete loving acceptance of the experience.
"With this new ability
your mind becomes a channel
of fully loving Spirit
empowering the Mother's Will to freely move in you,
just as she desires.
Cultivating and nurturing this kind of attention
is key to opening the passageway
to your new, radically expanded venue
beyond the present limitations of linear time.
"Since the Mother's Dream and its unfolding
is inscribed in the Universal Will at the deepest layers of
Being,
it is here now inside of you and everyone else, waiting to
unfold.
The key is having enough loving presence
to allow all of the energy and emotion
in and around the portal to the fifth dimension
to move freely in you.
"Since this kind of complete
and total freedom
is simply not available in your present manifestation of only
four dimensions,
the Mother is insisting
that everyone in the present paradigm
somehow find
deliverance
from its pain and limitations
and join with her and loving Spirit
in the full realization of her Dream.
"The Mother's Dream, however, is not for
only a select few,
or for beings only of this Creation.
The Mother of your Creation
and my own Will, Original Will, First Mother
are united
in this Dream of Free Will for all beings in
all Creations.
My
plan is and has been to fully support Divine Will in having
her way.
"Unconditional loving acceptance of all
beings
and their true desires
is the Mother's way.
And I can assure you
that Divinity will not let anyone down,
everyone's faith and steadfastness will be rewarded.
If there is a prophecy with any adherents at
all
who have put their faith in that prophecy,
it will be fulfilled for them in their venues.
"The winter solstice in
2012
is an approximate date in linear time
predicted for a collective planetary event
that will provide enough energy
to transport most Humans to the next paradigm
in a relatively short duration of linear time.
And along the way though [through?]
linear time from here to there,
many 'end times' prophecies will be played out
in individual venues
and on the world stage.
"For instance,
the Christian prophecies of Armageddon
are already beginning to be fulfilled for those who believe
in them.
Many will see worsening political and economic strife on the
world stage
as a cleansing process
leading to the return of the Christ to gather his flock.
And many will experience
ascending into the new paradigm of Heaven
in renewed and less physical bodies
as they participate in the predicted 'rapture'
where they are drawn into heavenly bliss
to live forever with the God they've believed in.
"Others will experience
the same disturbing and catastrophic events
on the world stage and in their individual venues
as harbingers of the
extraterrestrials
who say they have come to save Humanity
and bring you 'home' with them.
And in the newly expanded universe of five
dimensions
this will happen quite easily for them.
Those who have believed for any reason
that they will be lifted out of their 'imprisonment' here
on Earth
will experience just that.
"However, a much smaller
group of Humans
whose spirits no longer call Heaven or the Stars their home
will remain here on Earth
as they endure the unimaginably intense energy of the transition
while remaining present in their dense physical bodies.
When the dust has settled
they will find themselves on a new Earth
and in renewed bodies
capable of manifesting and moving physically in five dimensions.
These Humans will be the first in this Creation
to experience form change in place of death."
The Fifth Dimension
Channelers: Thank you, Grandfather.
You mention the opening of another, fifth dimension.
What more can you tell us about that?
"As
I have said earlier,
the Creation within which you now reside
is the last or most recent of seven local universes.
Your Creation is
where the most dense and restricted experiences
of manifestation can unfold,
and where the most lost parts of Divine Will can be found.
"The six Creations before you are progressively
less dense and restricted.
For instance, form change
and what would be other extraordinary feats of magic for you
presently
have been more or less ordinary experiences for many creature-spirits
in the Creation just prior to your present
experience of manifestation
in your more dense and time-restricted Creation.
"Understanding the manifesting power available
in the 'fifth dimension'
is the key to understanding
how form change and other magic beyond your present imagination
can easily happen for you~~~
when time as you've known it ends.
Simply stated,
there are more dimensions available in manifestation
beyond the three spatial and single temporal dimension
that have been available within your own very limited venue
and the 'world' of your agreed-upon 'objective reality.'
"This very dense and limited reality
has made Creation feel like a prison or reform school
for spirits who had chosen
to merge with evolutionary creatures in manifestation.
Human Beings, as well as all other forms,
are a mixture of the two primary essences of manifestation,
Spirit and Mother or 'matter.'
And all spirits who have come to Earth in human form
have found themselves restricted to only four dimensions of
space-time.
"Some came here originally to escape unloving
Spirit,
some came to explore and enjoy,
and others, like the spirits within most readers
of this material,
came here to help.
Regardless of their initial motivation,
all spirits coming into manifestation here
felt the deep terror
of merging with density and severe restriction of time and
gravity.
They each got caught up in their own karma
beginning with the shock and denials of the intensity,
and became trapped here
in what has seemed to them like an endless series of actions
and reactions.
"The various religions and
spiritual paths of Humanity
have sought to help disentangle spirits from form
and help them get free of manifestation
so they may once again return to their 'home' in the Heavens
and achieve the oneness of Spirit they left behind
and have sorely missed ever since coming here.
These teachings have not been wrong,
and yet they have missed the point of
why spirits migrated to Earth in the first place.
"The truth of why spirits
are here
and having the experiences they've been having
goes beyond their motivations for coming here.
I've discussed in the introduction to the Body
Class
the very good reasons
for things to have gone the way they have
in the seven manifested Creations,
including the very difficult pain and trauma of spirits in
Human form.
"One way of understanding
why it's been so difficult for spirits on Earth to work out
their karma is
that there has been very little real space here.
Your reality has been folded back on itself.
Imagine a cube made of paper that has been folded in such
a way that it is now flat.
That flatness represents the four dimensions of manifestation
that you are presently occupying.
"Now imagine the paper unfolding
and resuming its proper shape as a cube.
While only one extra dimension was necessary for this transformation
to happen,
the additional possibilities that are now available for the
cube are nearly endless.
"The new dimension that will open
when time as you have known it ends~~~
is a second dimension of time.
The three familiar spatial dimensions will remain along with
your present linear dimension of time.
"In addition to the human mind's sense
of past, present and future,
another dimension of time becomes available
that is in a way perpendicular to your accustomed
linear time.
The ever-expanding present moment
is a metaphor for how this new dimension of time will be experienced.
Please read what
Body and I have already said
about the fifth dimension
for more details and understandings.
"The profound and completely
unprecedented experience
of the 'end of time'
will come to each Human
when you have become truly whole,
when you have reclaimed
all of your lost Will
and redeemed
all of your lost Spirit.
And it is not Spirit,
it's the Divine Will,
the Mother and Grandmother,
the Universal Feminine within you
whose deep movement of Universal Will
opens the next dimension for your complete and whole Being
to unfold in timeless, eternal presence."
Your Magical Body
Thank you, Grandfather.
What can you say about the individual experience
of one's physical body
opening into five dimensions?
"You now have a temporal
or 'mortal' body
which from your perspective
is subject to 'accidents,' death, illness, etc.
Death has been a necessary part
of your enfolded and very limited four-dimensional space-time
venue.
And yet deep within you,
deep within Body has been a vague, distant knowing
that things could be very different.
"Children are much more in touch with this
knowing
because like all of the Mother's wisdom,
knowledge of these all but forgotten realms
can be accessed only through feeling.
Children at play often touch the magic
that was available in the
less dense Creations
that have preceded this one.
Memories of magical beings like fairies and elves
and magical creatures like unicorns, and satyrs
still flourish in Humans beneath the surface of your conscious
awareness.
"The opening of the next dimension
opens the opportunity for true magic to prevail on Earth
very much like what was commonplace
in your ancient inklings of magical lands with magical creatures
and beings.
Your parental
and loving acceptance of self and others
will lead you naturally to true magic,
the ability to manifest whatever you desire,
change form
and remain present in manifestation without need of death
and rebirth.
"For this to happen,
to survive this transition in dense physical form as you are
now,
in this most dense of all Creations,
you will endure an intensity of energy and chaos
well beyond anything you can presently imagine.
Spirit has spoken of this and other related topics
in his letter
to those doing the healing work.
"The way physical bodies
manifest in four dimensions
is very different than the way they manifest in five dimensions,
and the transition from the old to the new
will be unprecedentedly intense in your experience,
especially for the first few Humans.
It will feel
as if all the terror that's ever been denied in Creation
has suddenly become alive
and moving in you as Body.
And yet, instead of your spirit instinctively escaping all
of this intensity,
you will remain present and whole with it.
You will stay awake and alive through it
until you own it all.
"Then,
firmly planted in a newly unfolded space-time reality of five
dimensions,
you as a sentient Will creature and conscious Spirit in union
will determine the shape and texture of the eternal moment
as it unfolds in and around you.
If new conditions are desired, new conditions appear.
"The 'laws' of nature
that seemed so fixed and determinant in four dimensions
are still available
when experiences like that are desired.
However,
that limited reality will no longer be necessary
for you as Body,
now at home in the complete freedom
of manifesting five-dimensional space-time.
"The Mother's Dream includes
of course Original
Heart's desire
that your experience of wholeness of Being
be not only yours alone.
It speaks not only of your own wholeness and complete freedom,
it includes the same for others like you.
It includes your peers,
completely whole and fully realized Human Beings
who have also loved and healed themselves so fully~~~
that like you, they are now manifesting in a timeless magical
Body
as you relate together on a completely
new Earth."
Channelers Notes:
This interview will continue,
and there is more information about The
Healer's Mind on HealingToWholeness.org.
Grandfather
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