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Interview
with 'the Folks',
Part Five
October
1, 2008
(Edited and inserted also in Edited
Godchannel Files)
Interview,
part One
Interview, part Two
Interview, part Three
Interview, part Four
Channelers note: For
continuity and understanding~~~
if you haven't already, please first read part one, part two,
part three and part four of this interview
and especially the Channelers' note at the top of part one.
In addition to what is stated in our note there, we'd like to
mention again
that while they are two essences speaking as one,
'the Folks' refer to themselves individually as 'Spirit' and
'the Mother.'
The American Election
Channelers: As a reminder for readers,
when 'the Folks' are referring only to themselves we capitalize
'We,' Us,' and 'Our.'
When they refer to themselves and Humans together, these terms
are not capitalized.
Folks, we've been feeling triggered about
the upcoming American elections this year (2008).
What can you tell us about the transpersonal imprints that are
being triggered in us?
"For most humans, government in any guise
has been an intimidating form.
Even when you have been on the side the government has favored,
you have experienced distrust of it as a form that has had power
over you.
There is deep denial of Will in any form that moves to control
behaviors.
"The American elections this year, as in
many other countries recently,
have brought the inner battle between deep parts of Self
more prominently into the world.
This is valuable to the healing work
because certain parts of your deep selves that have been in
internal conflict
are now projected out onto the world stage in the dramas of
elections.
"This battle has been raging at the deepest
layer of Being
since before Earth was manifested.
When We the Creators were completely gapped with no communication
between Us,
the beings that We had created took sides with either one or
the other of Us.
"A very deep terror of being overrun and
consumed by the Mother
and her intense emotional responses
pervaded the Spirit Polarity.
In reaction to this terror in Spirit,
a whole new class of beings emerged
who called themselves 'Father Warriors.'
The terror these beings felt told them
that they must control the Will
in order to protect Spirit from the Mother,
and moved to do so
in opposition to the Mother and the Will Polarity beings
they perceived as causing their terror.
"The very fact that there has been a battle,
not to mention the tactics of deceit and denial used by the
Father Warriors,
has triggered deep terror and revulsion in the Mother.
This battle has been reenacted many, many times in manifestation~~~
and each time love has been the loser.
Even the 'Mother Warriors'
who arose to protect the Mother from the Father Warriors
have been using hatred and denial energy
to further their cause.
"This ancient transpersonal hatred and strife,
this never-ending war,
has felt good to a great many humans
who have made it their own at the personal level.
There are still many on Earth who love a good fight,
and there is still enormous energy
to prolong the ancient battle of the Father Warriors against
the Will.
Almost all of the strife in your civilization
has been in reaction
to the unconscious, frozen terror of the lost Will
in your lower chakras.
"The 'world economy'
is another example of an intimidating form in your civilization
where fear is triggered
to help fortify the position of those who 'own' things.
The perceived need and very premise for civilization
is to protect those who have ownership of material abundance
from those who don't.
And this too has been a reenactment of the ancient battle
the Father Warriors have been waging against the Will.
"You have been feeling terror and revulsion
in your politics recently
because this lost Will in humanity is being triggered more than
usual.
Still operating is the ancient strategy of the
Father Warriors
to trigger fear in the population
and then show that only they have the power to protect the population.
This strategy was used when they first came to Earth
and is being used now to see that their human surrogates win
the current election.
Any effort to go up against this
will only trigger more denied terror,
and the Father Warriors will simply use it
to show everyone why they should stay in power."
Thank you Folks, what do you suggest we do
here by way of healing?
"First, find the frozen terror in yourselves
that has been triggered by the world stage events,
and bring the light of loving acceptance to your own lost Will.
You can do this more easily
when you remember
that you are truly safe
and that the world stage events are happening
for the purpose of triggering this frozen terror
so that full loving acceptance and healing can finally come
to it.
"As your Will essence begins to vibrate with
your acceptance,
you also have a good opportunity
to take your projections off
of the economic leaders and politicians on the world stage.
You can now own them as parts of yourselves, which they truly
are.
The Father Warriors and their strategies of denial
are alive within your deep Being.
Bring the ancient war home to the only place it can be healed,
inside of you.
You will be pleasantly surprised
by the powerful results
of owning and healing the perpetrators within
yourself.
"The outer political beliefs that seem opposite
of yours
are being held inside of you by parts of yourself
that you have been unconscious of,
parts that are still in your shadow.
These are fragments of spirit
that can lead you to the lost Will they have been controlling.
The key to doing this is
in your willingness
to own the perpetrators
you've been seeing outside of yourself
as the reflections of bona fide parts of your whole Being."
Thank you Folks, what else can we
do to heal this gap between loving Light and lost Will?
"You can find the qualities
that you abhor in the politicians
and business leaders you don't agree with,
and then find the parts of yourselves
that have had these qualities.
You must of course be honest with
yourself,
and judgment
release is vital here.
"Please remember that you have been innocent
all along.
There has been much unconsciousness,
and yet evolution happens.
All that has been unconscious is destined to
become conscious.
The main issue now is that your Human identity
has been squeezed into a very
small container
by the conditioning of the civilization that has sought to control
you.
The time has now come for this conditioning to move~~~
your full, undenied greatness is needed for the
healing at hand."
The Truth That is Deeper Than Judgment
Thank you Folks,
near the end of Part Four
of this interview you said something similar,
that as humans we are responsible for all that has happened
in Creation.
At first glance it could seem
that this means humans are somehow at fault for all the evil
that is present on Earth now.
Would you please say more about this?
"First, as We mentioned in that part,
it's important to make the distinction
between 'responsibility' and blame or fault.
As what has been hidden within you
comes into the light of your loving consciousness,
you can see more clearly
that there really is no valid reason for either blame or fault.
"As Spirit has said,
everyone has always been doing the best they
could
with what they were working with at the time.
The only guilt or blame that exists is
that which has been held in place by the judgments in imprints.
Since none of those judgments are true,
neither is the guilt or blame.
"The judgments are either directly released
or they spontaneously release as part of the imprints' healing
in the clear truth of loving Light.
Love is what is true,
judgments and denial are not,
and neither is the guilt or blame they hold present in feelings.
"Although it may seem strange to the Human
mind,
it is true that everything that has happened in this Universe
has happened the only way it could have.
In other words, everything has happened just as it was supposed
to.
This is important to know
because in order to succeed as the Healer
you will simply have to trust
that the Universe has been good and operating correctly at all
times."
The Universe is Good and Operating Correctly
at All Times
"Obviously,
there has been a tremendous amount of evil and perpetration
in the Universe.
And not so obviously
there has been an evolving movement
to heal the imprints and their reenactments
that the evil and perpetration have been part of.
"The reenacting of ancient, transpersonal
imprints
has been part of a good Universe operating correctly,
moving from pain and fragmentation
toward healing and wholeness.
Now that more Humans have become aware of the
issues
and have more and more willingness to heal these imprints,
real healing has begun in many of these imprints~~~
both in the human healers themselves
and in Creation as a whole.
"In understanding responsibility,
it's important to know
that you can be responsible only when you decide to take responsibility.
And you can heal only what you take responsibility to heal.
Otherwise, the healing of these ancient imprints is left to
someone else.
And if there is someone else who is more responsible
than you~~~
then you would be a fragment of that larger whole,
and therefore not the Healer.
"Wholeness of Being is your
birthright as a Human.
However, by its very nature, it is not something that can be
given to you.
Your wholeness and your healing are yours for the having,
and you can have them
when you take full and loving responsibility
for all of the evil and perpetration in Creation~~~
as well as for all of the goodness and beauty.
You Are the Universe
"To get a feel for this movement,
pause for a moment now~~~
and imagine something good in Creation.
When you have chosen something~~~
observe it carefully and then say to yourself,
'I did that.'
The 'I' who was speaking
was speaking for the deepest part of your identity.
You were speaking for Us, the Creators in you.
"Now take another momentary
pause
and imagine something that's evil in Creation.
When you've thought of something,
take a deep breath~~~
observe it carefully and then say to yourself,
'I did that.'
Again, you spoke the truth of the deepest part of your identity.
This is where true Human greatness rests,
in your ultimate identity as the Universe itself~~~
all of it,
including all that has felt 'good' and all that has felt 'evil.'
"Now here is a vitally important point.
The new awareness of your deepest Self as perpetrator
can lead you to one of two places~~~
the 'courtroom' or the 'classroom.'
In the courtroom you will find guilt for yourself as the perpetrator,
and because that guilt is fundamentally untrue,
justice will be elusive.
This is because the courtroom is about
accusations, judgments, guilt, blame, and suffering.
In the classroom however, there is opportunity
to learn, evolve... and heal.
"If there are judgments to release,
feel the 'bad' feeling
and release the judgments.
Then immediately feel back into the feeling without judgment
and come into loving acceptance of the feeling energy
as a rightful part of your wholeness.
"If deep denial energy is in the evil
you sense in yourself,
release that as well.
Then feel back into the feeling essence
that had to hold the denial for so long,
and own that feeling energy too as a rightful part of your whole
Being.
And of course you can also release the denial energy in a feeling
by vibrating the feeling
with your pure, loving acceptance
until the denial energy can no longer stay present.
"If you are fully identified
in the feeling essence
you can move your body and sound
the feeling to express it.
Dance and song work well together
to embody the feeling
and bring it fully into manifestation.
The denial energy in the feeling will then spontaneous release
as the feeling's expression moves from tortured compression
to full-bodied joy and mirth.
"As Humans begin to truly
heal their Wills,
your loving conscious awareness will find the right ways
to release the denial energy
that has made you unsafe to be with the Mother.
Spirit has spoken more about this whole process of owning the
perpetrator
in Redeeming
the Devils.
"As you awaken to your true
greatness,
you become responsible for what had always been left to someone
else.
You, the Healer are not to blame for the perpetration
you now take responsibility for healing.
And again, in doing this work,
the courtroom is not an appropriate venue.
However, the classroom is.
"Although the ancient conditioning has been
deeply entrenched,
it can be overcome
with determined perseverance and consistent self-love.
Otherwise you will find yourself once again in the old default
place~~~
the courtroom,
where the imprints keep reenacting
and you continue to experience reversals in your life."
"Instead, use the opportunity
of your new awareness
to intentionally foster your learning and healing.
With your attention and willingness focused on evolving and
healing,
you will be able to move more quickly
to claim your birthright~~~
a whole and vibrant Will and her whole Spirit, loving Spirit~~~
embodied in loving union
with enough vital magnetic Mother energy
to draw into manifestation whatever you truly desire."
Cosmic Human Identity
Thank you Folks,
it seems like a good idea to keep ourselves in constant self-forgiveness
when we venture deeply into the universal shadow.
What you've said also seems to again raise the issue of identity.
You suggest that Human identity is really a cosmic identity.
How can this be?
"The sense of your constant, unchanging identity
is important to keeping you oriented
as the person you feel yourself to be.
The same person who goes to sleep at night wakes in the morning.
However, this sense of being a separate person
who has a life and a personal history
is not all of who you are.
"Your true Human identity
is with life itself.
Although it may seem strange to hear,
it is accurate to say
that very few Humans have actually lived.
Except for brief moments here and there,
almost all Humans over age five
have been too frightened
to venture outside of the models of reality and the identity
that your mind has constructed for you.
"You have believed yourselves
to be small and unimportant in the grand scheme of things.
And this will remain true for you
so long as you continue to unconsciously honor
the perspectives and beliefs
that the conditioning in your mind has held you to.
"Your true identity is so much more than
you've thought yourself to be.
As We have said,
Humans are amazingly vast Beings
with potentials well beyond your present ability to imagine.
You have all of the parts of Deity within you,
and if you choose,
you may identify as any of these parts,
or as all of Deity combined~~~
the whole Universe and its Creators.
Of course you must first leave behind
the erroneous old beliefs from your conditioning
and the disempowering self-hatred they have engendered.
"Spirit has pointed out
that there is a specific identity in Deity
that will serve you well as the Healer of yourself~~~
and therefore of all Creation.
There is one identity that straddles both
the first and second attention,
and it is the essence of your humanness as well.
"Your true Human greatness is not in yourself
as Spirit, or as Mother, or as Heart.
Your true greatness is in yourself as Body.
Spirit has said that your identity is flexible,
that your identity is as you choose it to be in the moment,
and that when you choose to identify as Body,
you are placing yourself in the position of the Healer of yourself~~~
and therefore of Creation.
"This choice of identity is
only possible
if you are not identifying inside the mind
with its maps of pasts and futures
and stories about who you are and who you've been.
For instance,
your sense of 'I' living 'my life'
is an example of an unreal, mentally constructed identity.
What you've known as your 'life'
is essentially a story your mind has made up
about yourself as a separate fragment of a larger whole, 'the
world.'
And this is all that your mind can know about
you~~~
a story about the identity of the main character in the movie
of your life.
The mind cannot know your real, true Self.
"There is much, much more to your humanness
than in your made-up identity as the person who lives your life.
Your true identity is vast and well beyond your
personal story
of separation, struggle, triumph, elation, defeat, pain
and a faint, distant longing for something you can't quite touch.
Okay Folks, thank you very much.
Interview, Part One ~ Part
Two ~ Part Three ~ Part
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