2000/06/22
On January 18, 2005, I discovered this page and found, that it is a slightly different version of .gf1(=.gf2)
which was channeled on 2000_06_22.
On my new edition of .gf1 (=.gf2) I carefully compared between the old and the new version, the last time: on 2013-01-05


Grandfather Pages

Channelers' note: Welcome to this new area of the site.
We have posted a few of the contributions to the healing class discussion addressed to Grandfather here.
The channeling on this page is a partial response
to some of the questions and concerns addressed in these contributions,

Contributions related to this channeling

How We've Gotten Here, Part One

Channelers:
Grandfather, thank you for all the new information in the Body class, but we have some questions.
What we understand so far is, that you are the Father of the Spirit we call God,
and you have six other children like him.
Why were seven more Creations necessary after yours,
and what about Grandmother, where is she?
Also, why has there been so much suffering in Creation,
and what has been your role in that?

"You have asked some very deep questions.
To begin, there is only one Mother, yet there are many Spirits.
My mate in our Original, Grand Creation
was the youngest, most vibrant and most able to mate with me Mother essence.
'Grandmother' is not a good name for this part of the Mother,
but 'Original Mother' or 'First Mother' says it well.
After the original separation of Spirit and Will,
she was the least damaged of all the Will essence.

"We worked together cooperatively,
and very quickly to form a Creation
that would enable us to stabilize manifestation
immediately after our initial separation ~~~
when the being we were both part of,
Original Heart separated into two,
setting the stage for manifestation.

"Our first Creation, and all Creations since ~~~
have been acts of fusion,
the joining of two formerly separate parts.
The Original Mother and I, the two essential beings
who emerged from the fission of Original Heart ~
immediately sought to become one again.
The result of our overwhelming desire for wholeness was the first Creation, the 'Grand Creation'.

"We not only sought wholeness, we sought perfection ~
the two primary attributes of Original Heart.
But wholeness now included something
we never experienced as parts of the original whole.
Now there was also the Void.
In order for Heart to split into two,
there needed to be something that would keep the two separate, a dividing line of some sort.
As Original Will and Original Spirit we found ourselves on opposite sides of something
that was never experienced before ~ the gap of the Void.

"In order for a 'something' to exist in manifestation,
there needed to be a 'nothing' that could balance it.

Although the Mother and I were separate from each other ~
we both could remember
how things had been in the unmanifested ecstasy of Original Heart.
Things there had been ~ perfect.
We immediately set to work
re-creating in manifestation the union that we had before,
but unmanifest in Original Heart ~
a perfect union of divine love, rapture and bliss.

"But each time we found a value that we knew we wanted in our new Creation,
we also found its opposite.
Love, for instance ~ was something we definitely needed, all throughout our Creation.
Hatred wasn't even a possibility for Original Heart,
but our new Love could not be present, could not 'exist ~
unless there was also a place for its opposite, a place for hatred.

"The same went for Life.
We found Life in manifestation, and we loved it ~
but we were dismayed to realize we couldn't have Life without ~ Death.

"To us Beauty wasn't something that was just nice.
Beauty was necessary ~
to be we knew ourselves to be.
Yet now in manifestation
there could be no Beauty without Destruction to tear it down.

"Every value we wished to instill in our Creation
had a negative side to it that tried to cancel it out.
We realized that the presence of the Void made our Creation dual ~ two sided.
We found that with the Void between us, and in the way of everything else ~
we could have neither the union nor the perfection we so ardently desired.

"We were in a trap.
The Mother could not pull my Light across the Void,
and I could not leap across it to her.
It seemed that we were stuck in separation.

"But we found what might be termed a 'work around'.
We couldn't alter the basic structure of duality that Original Heart had made.
But we could manifest a Creation that was perfect, and have our perfect union ~
if we 'avoided' all the negative aspects of our values.

"There are many details of how we did this ~
that I must leave out for now,
but they will be filled in later as understandings of what has happened evolve.

"For now I will say
that we found a way to push all of our unwanted values, our denials into the Void,
believing that would negate them.
And for a long time it seemed to work in our perfect Creation.


"Little did we realize that in doing this,
we also pushed away all the rest of the Mother~~~
all the parts of her
that could not rise up to the very high frequency vibration of my Original Light.

"There was almost no real manifestation in that first Creation,
because there was so little Will essence to give it substance.
All of the Will that was aligned with me
was all of the Will I knew existed.

" Until Heart told us otherwise.

"The Mother and I found
that we could meet each other and join in union
if we bridged the Gap created by the Void,
a little at a time.
Not all of ourselves could do this,
but enough of our essences found each other to find union ~
and we held each other close.
That is when we discovered our first offspring ~
who we named 'Heart'.
But Heart was not whole,
everything we ourselves had left behind in the Void
was missing from him.
But he had a gender,
he was more Spirit than Will,
he was 'male'.

"This was because only a little of the Mother's essence
could rise high enough to reach the bridge across the Gap
to manifest our first Creation,
and therefore most of the bridge building happened from my side.
Manifestation was the other result of our partial joinings ~
it was in fact the bridge itself.

"We were careful to manifest only what we desired,
our true values ~
and the negative sides of our values went into the Void beneath us.
We found that if we made the Void be on one side of Creation,
and all the rest ~ the other side,
we could be together as Heart in Manifestation.
But we were not complete, we were not whole.
There was still much of the Original Will,
the Mother of Everything ~
that was left holding space for the Void.
And she went back on herself,
because by then the denial denizens of the Void,
had captured most of her essence.

"It hurt her deeply,
and in the same places she had been hurt earlier
when Original Heart blew itself apart
in order to separate us from each other.
Her hurt remembered her previous trauma,
and that intensified her pain.
The Void was now full of what you know as my original denials,
the 'denial spirits' or asuras.

"And it was only through the Void
that the Heart of our first union,
the Grand Creation ~ could venture.
He first became the Spirit of the next Creation,
and later the Father of it in union with the Mother.

But it was not a union with all of the missing Mother,
it was with only as much of her that could rise up to meet him,
just like the Original Mother had to do with me.


History was beginning to repeat itself,
and in a most unsavory and unfortunate way.
And like all of Heart since the original separation,
he was incomplete, not whole ~
because the whole Mother has never yet been able
to fully participate in making Heart in manifestation.

"When the first Creator Son failed to find the rest of the Mother in manifestation,
I realized that my Original Heart's desire ~ to find all of her,
so that she and I could once again be in whole together in complete union ~
was going to require a long and difficult journey.
I had been directed by my Original Heart to find the Mother in manifestation
and bring her back home to Heart.

"But I got my directions wrong.
I took an initial wrong turn.
I didn't realize in my perfection ~
that perfection was not a value to be prized.
Evolution seemed like the wrong direction to me,
because it was going away from where we started ~
in the love, rapture and bliss of our perfect union in Original Heart.

"I know now what Original Heart's Will has always known
but dared never say ~
that perfection is a dead end.
I know now that what is most desirable about the Mother
is not that she is perfect,
but that she is free to be just as she desires herself to be ~~~
In other words,
just as she is she herself, and herself only ~
when no more of Spirit's denials,
or my orginal denials ~~~ are present in her.

"There has been a lot of water under the bridge since that first wrong turn,
and I've needed the lessons of seven Creator Sons
to show me the correct direction.
I am now moving from my position of Father and Grandfather within all eight Creations ~~~

to do what my Original Heart had intended all along.
Find the Mother
And this time not try to bring her back 'home'
to unmanifest Original Heart,
but rather join her in our new home, in manifestation.

"This is what my seventh Heart Son,
turned Creator Son,
turned Creation Spirit,
and now fully empowering himself as Body
the Father of this Creation ~
is doing for us all.
He is spearheading on the Spirit side
what I know will be the final attempt,
and the first and only fully successful recovery
of all the rest of the Lost Will in all Creations.

"He is now beginning to find the last of the most lost Will,
the Mother's Body.
And it's happening here,
in these times
on this planet ~
and beginning inside of those
who are willing to risk experiencing first-hand
the intensity of Original Heart's dream,
the complete union of Spirit and the whole Mother ~
as New Heart in manifestation,
and best of all, with peers for companionship.

"I know that this does not fully answer all questions,
nor address all concerns about my role in all of this.
As I mentioned,
there are more understandings needing to be established here
before I can say much more from my perspective
about how things have come to be way they are ~
and more importantly, how all of this will change.
There are other voices that need to be heard here
before I can continue, including yours ~
if it is your desire to be heard.
Please keep asking, and you will indeed receive.
And please join me on the inside for more immediate details?"


Contributions related to this channeling

Body Class Discussion Index | Body Pages

Body Class Introduction, Lesson Four

Healing Class, Lesson Three

Healing Class Lesson Three Discussion

Spirit Polarity, Lesson Two

Quest for the Mother, Lesson One

Healing Class Lessons One & Two Discussion